‘Ghetto Tubeless’ – some hints
I tweeted a more compact version of these instructions the other day after fitting some new tyres using the ghetto tubeless method. Thought I’d put it in order, add a bit more info, & post it up here for reference
Why ‘Ghetto Tubeless’ instead of buying a kit?
I prefer this method to the kits that come with a rimstrip; some widths of rim don’t fit the rimstrips too well. Also, this method costs half the price or less of the packaged kits
How will it improve your ride?
So, if you fancy going tubeless for less rolling resistance, no pinch flats, more grip & the ability to run lower pressures, here’s some easy to follow instructions:
- Check the net for good/bad tyre/rim combos, but I’ve found Maxxis on EN321’s to work well, also Continentals. Kenda’s don’t like it so much. Some tyre/rim combos are just too loose fitting & some tyres have extremely porous side-walls. Maxxis seem to be built really nicely
- Fit a rim tape, as it will protect the rim strip you will make from damage by the spoke holes (I use a couple of layers of insulation tape, remember to cut a hole for the valve)
- Next, fit a 24″ (or smaller) Schrader tube onto the rim, with no tyre on yet. Blow it up a little bit just to make it easy to centre it on the rim. It needs to be one with a removable core (most are)
- Now cut the tube with sharp scissors down the centre so it opens up & turns into a (very wide at the moment) rim strip
- Clean off the chalky stuff with a damp cloth, then wipe dry. Fit the tyre using washing up liquid on the bead to make life easy
- Remove the valve core using one of the little tools, (cheap to buy). This is so that inflation in the next step can be done as fast as possible, and you’ll need the core out to get the sealant in
- inflate to 60psi as fast as possible to seat the bead. If it’s not working, make sure the beads are outside the valve hole. You’ll likely need a track pump. Some people use a CO2 cartridge or take it to a garage & use the airline, although some airlines these days seem to be slower than a track pump
- You might need to mess about a bit to get the tyre beads seated well so it inflates…
- Carefully remove the pump, if you can let the air out slowish that’s better. Don’t put the wheel down as it might move the tyre
- Now put some latex sealant through the valve hole into the tyre, using a plastic bottle with a narrow nozzle, or a small funnel. Valve needs to be at the bottom, obviously…
- Use about 150-200ml, or whatever the brand of sealant recommends. Refit the valve core & inflate to 60psi again. Sealant might leak a bit but as long as it’s not pouring out just hold wheel flat & swish the sealant around until the leaks stop. Turn over to do both sides. If it’s leaking really bad then something’s moved and you’ll need to make sure the tyre’s re-seated again
- When it’s sorted, carefully trim off the excess rim strip. I used a sharp knife with the flat of the blade against the tyre so I couldn’t cut the sidewall. Just be careful & follow the usual rules with sharp blades. If you’re an uncoordinated type, probably get some else to do this! A blunt blade is asking for trouble as the rubber will be awkward to cut
- To be on the safe side leave it at 60psi (or the maximum the rim is rated for) for a good few hours (24hrs if you can spare it) before adjusting to riding pressure. You should be able to use lower pressure than before, as pinch flats will be no more! How much lower depends on your set-up. Some tyres/rims will be a tighter fit & the tyres less likely to roll of the rim at low pressure
- Ride!
Brands of sealant include Joe’s No Flats, NoTubes, Effetto Cafe Latex & Bontrager
Hi – I ran EN321 rims for a few years way back.
They always seemed to be really tough, I never dented one.
These days you might be able to run them tubeless with tape instead, but if I remember right, Mavic used to always be drilled for Schrader valves. You can still get Schrader tubeless valves I think.
The other issue is that a lot of modern tyres are designed for wider rims, so you might need to research which tyres work best on that width rims.
Morning, how long did you run your EN321s tubesless for, and how did they fare long term?
I’ve got EN321s on an old 26 so I’m stuck those rims, but I’d like to go tubeless.
Is it a case of new maxxis and forget about it, or will it need a little more work long term?